finished with the bees for the most part, need to figure out how to "end" the system age. The bees don't render with any color though, but i'm sure it's because the material map confuses me and I screwed it up somehow. (I end up clicking things randomly sometimes) but as a result of random clicking, I found out you can have 3ds max email you when your render is completed or fails ^_^ That could be useful for leaving and coming back, no? [no idea if it works] here's the screenshots for the rendering problem, past rigging I fixed and the bee tracking today.